The park, on this winter day, seems harmless to these untrained eyes, but Pattinson knows better. He has been incomprehensibly famous since he was 22, and around every corner for the past 13 years has lurked a fan or a camera or a fan with a camera. “You never really know until it happens.”Īs we walk around Holland Park in the early afternoon – the sky seems to just barely clear the tops of our heads – Pattinson’s eyes scan reflexively for threats. All of it.” But if not, I suggest, you’re answering for people’s anguish. I ask him if he’s anxious at all about how this multi-year endeavour will land. “Why are you doing this to me? She was very entertaining. And I’m looking at her like: Shut the fuck up!” He cracks up. And I’m sitting there facing the other direction, and my girlfriend just keeps continuing the conversation with him. “The guy came around the other day,” he says, “and he just randomly started talking about what a DC fan he is. Outside, it is cold, dark, and Covidly nihilistic (in other words, all vaguely DC), and the weather reminds Pattinson about how his boiler recently needed fixing. So, hopefully, there are a lot of sad people in the world.” Even the artwork is really, really different. “DC is the kind of emo comic,” he continues, laughing. Necklace (bottom), £3,495, Chrome Hearts. Necklace (top), price upon request), Martine Ali. But I mean, it’s kind of such an insane thing to do: The only way I can live is to dress up as a bat.Ĭoat, £2,090, and trousers, £1,185, Bottega Veneta. Normally, Bruce never questions his own ability he questions the city’s ability to change. It’s kind of about him trying to find some element of hope, in himself, and not just the city. If I don’t do this, then there’s nothing else for me.’ I always read that as not like, ‘There’s nothing else,’ like, ‘I don’t have a purpose.’ But like: ‘I’m checking out.’ And I think that makes it a lot sadder. “And Bruce says: ‘This is my family legacy.
There’s a moment when Alfred asks Bruce what his family would think of him tarnishing the family legacy with his new side hustle. But it’s not like a healthy thing that he’s done.” It’s like an extended crack-up. He’s created this intricate construction for years and years and years, which has culminated in this Batman persona. “And I kept trying to play into that, I kept trying to think, and I’m going to express this so badly, but there’s this thing with addressing trauma… All the other stories say the death of his parents is why Bruce becomes Batman, but I was trying to break that down in what I thought was a real way, instead of trying to rationalise it. There’s this scene where he’s beating everyone up on this train platform, and I just love that there’s a bit in the script where the guy he’s saving is also just like: Ahh! It’s worse! You’re either being mugged by some gang members, or a monster comes and, like, fucking beats everybody up! The guy has no idea that Batman’s come to save him. The people of Gotham think that he’s just another symptom of how shit everything is. Like, it’s two years into it, and the crime has gotten worse since Bruce started being Batman. But this thing he’s doing, it’s not even working. But in this, it’s sort of implied that he’s had a bit of a breakdown. ’Cause, normally, in all the other films, Bruce goes away, trains, and returns to Gotham believing in himself, thinking, ‘I’m gonna change things here’. He doesn’t have a playboy persona at all, so he’s kind of a weirdo as Bruce and a weirdo as Batman, and I kept thinking there’s a more nihilistic slant to it. “I’ve definitely found a little interesting thread. I remind Pattinson that the last time he was in GQ, he was just getting started on The Batman, searching for what he called “the gap” in a character that has been played every which way for decades now. But he’s having conversations, and there are emotional scenes between them, which I don’t think have been in any of the other movies.” Normally, when you see Batman he arrives and beats people up. Just ’cause there’s a lot of stuff where he’s in among the cops. And I feel like an idiot, because I didn’t even know that Batman was ‘the world’s greatest detective’ I hadn’t heard that in my life before – but it really plays. But from the first shot, it’s, Oh, this actually is a detective story. It was what Matt was saying from the first meeting I had with him: ‘I want to do a ’70s noir detective story, like The Conversation.’ And I assumed that meant the mood board or something, the look of it.
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“And the first shot is so jarring from any other Batman movie that it’s just kind of a totally different pace. “I watched a rough cut of the movie by myself,” he tells me in the not-cave, while eating together.